Pythagoras came first. Influencing Socractes, who influenced Plato, who in turn influence Aristotle.

  • 570-495 (75yrs): Pythagoras
    • Travelled, dabbled in mysticism. Pretty up on himself. Did not correct stories of himself being godly.
    • Interested in real number ratio, thinking they expressed the hidden voice of gods, hearable as musical notes, harmonies, etc.
    • Taught in a period of civil unrest, between new Democratics and older Oligarths (from which he made is bread and butter).
    • To ensure teaching was only to Oligarths (and not exposing heresy or anything to Democrats) instilled mystical secrecy (five years of silence and not meeting Pythogas directly) to endure to weed out 'fakes'.
    • Is credited with a lot that is probably not true, including the Pythagoras Theorem (but it was discovered earlier).
    • Hipassus may have been the student that discovered irrational numbers – blowing up his argument or ratios – and Pythagoras sometimes is said to have been behind his drowning to not divulge it.
  • 470-399 (71yrs): Socrates
    • Born about 25 years after Pythagoras died
    • Interested in Moral Virtue
  • 428-348 (80 yrs) Plato
    • Born when Socrates was 42 (so would have heard him in person, near the end of Socrates life, and his poison taking)
    • Math with mystical overtones (see Pythagoras, and mysticism of Real number Ratios)
  • 384-322 (68 yrs) Aristotle
    • Born when Plato was about 40.
    • Interested in Philosophy and Science and Physics and categorisation.

Socrates left a legacy of: * Cynisim * Ascetisim

* Christianity refered to Pythagoras for his rule of silence, his frugality, his “extraordinary” morality, and his wise teaching.

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